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Would any one be familiar with a “tenth avatar” predicted, when Vishnu – the 2nd of the Divine Triad is to come as a man on a white horse overthrowing his enemies and rooting out all evil from the earth? In which of the Hindu Sacred books could one find it?
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Re: Vishnu
Tue, June 6, 2006 - 4:14 PMThat would be Kalki. Try Google or Alta Vista, or maybe somebody here who is more knowledgeable about the texts could direct you.
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Wed, June 7, 2006 - 11:24 AMThanks for replying! I encountered the information about Vishnu during research of Constellations. I got a link to the Hindu Sacred texts but have no idea where to look,
I may try a search there or I hope others could direct me where to look
www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduindex.asp
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Wed, June 7, 2006 - 7:51 PMDid you know the center of the galaxy (a black hole) is called Vishnu's Navel?
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Wed, June 7, 2006 - 8:49 PMYou want to find a conline version of the Vishnu purana?
www.sacred-texts.com/hin/vp/index.htm
Specificly go here www.sacred-texts.com/hin/vp/vp117.htm and scroll down to where it's marked p. 483 the paragraph starts at the end of that (Chapter four verse 24).
Also there is a minor purana totaly dedicated to Kalki, the Kalki Purana. Here's a site with lots of quotes from it and one from the Vishnu Purana ww-iii.tripod.com/hindu.htm
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Thu, June 8, 2006 - 6:17 PMThe center of the galaxy (a black hole) is called Vishnu's Navel? Interesting! No - I'm not that familiar with Hinduism at all, but interested. Hindu and Parsi - Avestan and Sanskrit share some similarities from their common heritage.
The online version of the Vishnu purana is wonderful, thanks for the link and guidance where to look!
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 3:28 AMThat would be found in the Srimad Bhagavatam also called the Bhagavata Purana 12 canto starting with chapter 1
www.srimadbhagavatam.com/12/1/en
also here is a verse from the 1 canto
Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 1.3.25
athāsau yuga-sandhyāyāḿ
dasyu-prāyeṣu rājasu
janitā viṣṇu-yaśaso
nāmnā kalkir jagat-patiḥ
SYNONYMS
atha — thereafter; asau — the same Lord; yuga-sandhyāyām — at the conjunction of the yugas; dasyu — plunderers; prāyeṣu — almost all; rājasu — the governing personalities; janitā — will take His birth; viṣṇu — named Viṣṇu; yaśasaḥ — surnamed Yaśā; nāmnā — in the name of; kalkiḥ — the incarnation of the Lord; jagat-patiḥ — the Lord of the creation.
TRANSLATION
Thereafter, at the conjunction of two yugas, the Lord of the creation will take His birth as the Kalki incarnation and become the son of Viṣṇu Yaśā. At this time the rulers of the earth will have degenerated into plunderers.
PURPORT
Here is another foretelling of the advent of Lord Kalki, the incarnation of Godhead. He is to appear at the conjunction of the two yugas, namely at the end of Kali-yuga and the beginning of Satya-yuga. The cycle of the four yugas, namely Satya, Tretā, Dvāpara and Kali, rotates like the calendar months. The present Kali-yuga lasts 432,000 years, out of which we have passed only 5,000 years after the Battle of Kurukṣetra and the end of the regime of King Parīkṣit. So there are 427,000 years balance yet to be finished. Therefore at the end of this period, the incarnation of Kalki will take place, as foretold in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. The name of His father, Viṣṇu Yaśā, a learned brāhmaṇa, and the village Śambhala are also mentioned. As above mentioned, all these foretellings will prove to be factual in chronological order. That is the authority of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.
Your servant
Nityananda Ram Das
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 3:40 AMŚrīmad Bhāgavatam 12.2.12-16
kṣīyamāṇeṣu deheṣu
dehināḿ kali-doṣataḥ
varṇāśramavatāḿ dharme
naṣṭe veda-pathe nṛṇām
pāṣaṇḍa-pracure dharme
dasyu-prāyeṣu rājasu
cauryānṛta-vṛthā-hiḿsā-
nānā-vṛttiṣu vai nṛṣu
śūdra-prāyeṣu varṇeṣu
cchāga-prāyāsu dhenuṣu
gṛha-prāyeṣv āśrameṣu
yauna-prāyeṣu bandhuṣu
aṇu-prāyāsv oṣadhīṣu
śamī-prāyeṣu sthāsnuṣu
vidyut-prāyeṣu megheṣu
śūnya-prāyeṣu sadmasu
itthaḿ kalau gata-prāye
janeṣu khara-dharmiṣu
dharma-trāṇāya sattvena
bhagavān avatariṣyati
SYNONYMS
kṣīyamāṇeṣu — having become smaller; deheṣu — the bodies; dehinām — of all living entities; kali-doṣataḥ — by the contamination of the age of Kali; varṇa-āśrama-vatām — of the members of varṇāśrama society; dharme — when their religious principles; naṣṭe — have been destroyed; veda-pathe — the path of the Vedas; nṛṇām — for all men; pāṣaṇḍa-pracure — mostly atheism; dharme — religion; dasyu-prāyeṣu — mostly thieves; rājasu — the kings; caurya — banditry; anṛta — lying; vṛthā-hiḿsā — useless slaughter; nānā — various; vṛttiṣu — their occupations; vai — indeed; nṛṣu — when men; śūdra-prāyeṣu — mostly low-class śūdras; varṇeṣu — the so-called social orders; chāga-prāyāsu — no better than goats; dhenuṣu — the cows; gṛha-prāyeṣu — just like materialistic homes; āśrameṣu — the spiritual hermitages; yauna-prāyeṣu — extending no further than marriage; bandhuṣu — family ties; aṇu-prāyāsu — mostly very small; oṣadhīṣu — plants and herbs; śamī-prāyeṣu — just like śamī trees; sthāsnuṣu — all the trees; vidyut-prāyeṣu — always manifesting lightning; megheṣu — the clouds; śūnya-prāyeṣu — devoid of religious life; sadmasu — the homes; ittham — thus; kalau — when the age of Kali; gata-prāye — is almost finished; janeṣu — the people; khara-dharmiṣu — when they have assumed the characteristics of asses; dharma-trāṇāya — for the deliverance of religion; sattvena — in the pure mode of goodness; bhagavān — the Supreme Personality of Godhead; avatariṣyati — will descend.
TRANSLATION
By the time the age of Kali ends, the bodies of all creatures will be greatly reduced in size, and the religious principles of followers of varṇāśrama will be ruined. The path of the Vedas will be completely forgotten in human society, and so-called religion will be mostly atheistic. The kings will mostly be thieves, the occupations of men will be stealing, lying and needless violence, and all the social classes will be reduced to the lowest level of śūdras. Cows will be like goats, spiritual hermitages will be no different from mundane houses, and family ties will extend no further than the immediate bonds of marriage. Most plants and herbs will be tiny, and all trees will appear like dwarf śamī trees. Clouds will be full of lightning, homes will be devoid of piety, and all human beings will have become like asses. At that time, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will appear on the earth. Acting with the power of pure spiritual goodness, He will rescue eternal religion.
PURPORT
Significantly, these verses point out that most so-called religions in this age will be atheistic (pāsaṇḍa-pracure dharme). In confirmation of the Bhāgavatam's prediction, the United States Supreme Court has recently ruled that to be considered a religion a system of belief need not recognize a supreme being. Also, many atheistic, voidistic belief systems, often imported from the Orient, have attracted the attention of modern atheistic scientists, who expound on the similarities between Eastern and Western voidism in fashionable, esoteric books.
These verses vividly describe many unsavory symptoms of the age of Kali. Ultimately, at the end of this age, Lord Kṛṣṇa will descend as Kalki and remove the thoroughly demonic persons from the face of the earth.
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 3:41 AM
SB 12.2.1: Śukadeva Gosvāmī said: Then, O King, religion, truthfulness, cleanliness, tolerance, mercy, duration of life, physical strength and memory will all diminish day by day because of the powerful influence of the age of Kali.
SB 12.2.2: In Kali-yuga, wealth alone will be considered the sign of a man's good birth, proper behavior and fine qualities. And law and justice will be applied only on the basis of one's power.
SB 12.2.3: Men and women will live together merely because of superficial attraction, and success in business will depend on deceit. Womanliness and manliness will be judged according to one's expertise in sex, and a man will be known as a brāhmaṇa just by his wearing a thread.
SB 12.2.4: A person's spiritual position will be ascertained merely according to external symbols, and on that same basis people will change from one spiritual order to the next. A person's propriety will be seriously questioned if he does not earn a good living. And one who is very clever at juggling words will be considered a learned scholar.
SB 12.2.5: A person will be judged unholy if he does not have money, and hypocrisy will be accepted as virtue. Marriage will be arranged simply by verbal agreement, and a person will think he is fit to appear in public if he has merely taken a bath.
SB 12.2.6: A sacred place will be taken to consist of no more than a reservoir of water located at a distance, and beauty will be thought to depend on one's hairstyle. Filling the belly will become the goal of life, and one who is audacious will be accepted as truthful. He who can maintain a family will be regarded as an expert man, and the principles of religion will be observed only for the sake of reputation.
SB 12.2.7: As the earth thus becomes crowded with a corrupt population, whoever among any of the social classes shows himself to be the strongest will gain political power.
SB 12.2.8: Losing their wives and properties to such avaricious and merciless rulers, who will behave no better than ordinary thieves, the citizens will flee to the mountains and forests.
SB 12.2.9: Harassed by famine and excessive taxes, people will resort to eating leaves, roots, flesh, wild honey, fruits, flowers and seeds. Struck by drought, they will become completely ruined.
SB 12.2.10: The citizens will suffer greatly from cold, wind, heat, rain and snow. They will be further tormented by quarrels, hunger, thirst, disease and severe anxiety.
SB 12.2.11: The maximum duration of life for human beings in Kali-yuga will become fifty years.
SB 12.2.12-16: By the time the age of Kali ends, the bodies of all creatures will be greatly reduced in size, and the religious principles of followers of varṇāśrama will be ruined. The path of the Vedas will be completely forgotten in human society, and so-called religion will be mostly atheistic. The kings will mostly be thieves, the occupations of men will be stealing, lying and needless violence, and all the social classes will be reduced to the lowest level of śūdras. Cows will be like goats, spiritual hermitages will be no different from mundane houses, and family ties will extend no further than the immediate bonds of marriage. Most plants and herbs will be tiny, and all trees will appear like dwarf śamī trees. Clouds will be full of lightning, homes will be devoid of piety, and all human beings will have become like asses. At that time, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will appear on the earth. Acting with the power of pure spiritual goodness, He will rescue eternal religion.
SB 12.2.17: Lord Viṣṇu — the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the spiritual master of all moving and nonmoving living beings, and the Supreme Soul of all — takes birth to protect the principles of religion and to relieve His saintly devotees from the reactions of material work.
SB 12.2.18: Lord Kalki will appear in the home of the most eminent brāhmaṇa of Śambhala village, the great soul Viṣṇuyaśā.
SB 12.2.19-20: Lord Kalki, the Lord of the universe, will mount His swift horse Devadatta and, sword in hand, travel over the earth exhibiting His eight mystic opulences and eight special qualities of Godhead. Displaying His unequaled effulgence and riding with great speed, He will kill by the millions those thieves who have dared dress as kings.
SB 12.2.21: After all the impostor kings have been killed, the residents of the cities and towns will feel the breezes carrying the most sacred fragrance of the sandalwood paste and other decorations of Lord Vāsudeva, and their minds will thereby become transcendentally pure.
SB 12.2.22: When Lord Vāsudeva, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, appears in their hearts in His transcendental form of goodness, the remaining citizens will abundantly repopulate the earth.
SB 12.2.23: When the Supreme Lord has appeared on earth as Kalki, the maintainer of religion, Satya-yuga will begin, and human society will bring forth progeny in the mode of goodness.
SB 12.2.24: When the moon, the sun and Bṛhaspatī are together in the constellation Karkaṭa, and all three enter simultaneously into the lunar mansion Puṣyā — at that exact moment the age of Satya, or Kṛta, will begin.
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Wed, June 21, 2006 - 3:45 AMThank you
do you know however that the most recent incarnation of Vishnu/Krishna just appeared 500 years ago in West Bengal, Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. This was also fortold extensively in vedic literature.
veda.harekrsna.cz/encyclope...itanya.htm
haribolo
Your servant,
Nityananda Ram Das
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Wed, June 21, 2006 - 9:19 AMZstar,
What Nityananda R. just said is only the opinion of a small sect mainly located in Bengal and represented in the west by ISKCON (AKA Hare Krishnas).
There constantly trying to prostalitize like that as if it's a universal Hindu belief, lol.
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Thu, June 22, 2006 - 6:01 AMAustin always so envious this is not the mood of a spiritualist i think our moderater would also agree. I will give you vedic reference if you like -
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Thu, June 22, 2006 - 10:32 AMOh yeah soooooooo envious, lol.
It's called protecting the Dharma from frauds, cheats and child molesting cults. For the Dharma protects those who protect the Dharma.
And copy and pasting a hundred secondary and unauthoratative texts plus a couple of authorataive ones that may vaugely be constrewed to support you, is a poor propaganda tactic.
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Thu, June 22, 2006 - 7:41 PMGreat protector of Dharma do have any sastric evidence to support any of your claims? -
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Thu, June 22, 2006 - 8:04 PMThe only claim I've made here is that only a small group of people accept Caitanya as an incarnation of God. How can I quote Shastra to support that? Why would I need to? Do you deny that only Gaudiyas accept this?
Aum! Shanti!
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Thu, June 22, 2006 - 6:07 AMHmm let read what Vedas and vedic literatures have to say about Austin and his attempt at defamation. Ha universal (HIndu) belief, so such thing, Vedic culture is universal but it perverted reflection hinduism is different for each person, there is no standard for hinduism, vedic yes hinduism no.
Sruti: (alphabetic order)
ito 'ham krta-sannyaso 'vatarisyami sa-guno nirvedo
niskamo bhu-girbanas
tira-stho 'lakanandayah kalau catuh-sahasrabdhopari
panca-sahasrabhyantare gaura-varno dirghangah
sarva-laksana-yukta
isvara-prarthito nija-rasasvado bhakta-rupo
misrakhyo vidita-yogah syam
"Towards the end of the period between four-thousand to five thousand years in Kali-yuga, I will descend on the earth as Gauranga, a golden-complexioned saintly brahmana in a place by the Ganges' shore and later become the crest-jewel of all sannyasis, exhibiting all My transcendental qualities including supreme renunciation and complete detachment from material desires. In the form of Lord Gauranga, I will display all the thirty-two bodily symptoms of a great personality with my arms extending to my knees. I will become my own devotee, very advanced in bhakti-yoga and teach the worship of Lord Krsna (Myself) by the chanting of My own holy names and relishing the mellows of My own devotional service. At that time only My most confidential devotees will be able to understand Me." (Atharva Veda, third khanda, Brahma-vibhaga)
Caitanya Upanisad of Atharva Veda (the whole text of 19 verses)
atra brahma-puram nama
pundarikam yad ucyate
tad evasta-dalam padma
sannibham puram adbhutam
In that place [where Sri Caitanya appears] is a wonderful city like an eight-petal lotus flower. (commentary of Bhaktivinoda Thakura on Chandogya Upanisad 8.1.1 of Sama Veda)
tan-madhye daharam saksat
mayapuramitiryate
tatra vesma bhagavatas
caitanyasya paratmanah
tasmin yas tv 'antarakaso
hy antar-dvipah sa ucyate
In the middle of that lotus-city is a place called Mayapura, and in the middle of Mayapura is a place called Antardvipa. That place is the home of Lord Caitanya, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. (commentary of Bhaktivinoda Thakura on Chandogya Upanisad 8.1.2)
sa eva bhagavan yuge turiye 'pi brahma-kule
jayamanah sarva upanisadah uddidirsuh
sarvani dharma-astrani vistarayisnuh sarvan
api janan santarayisnuh sarvan api vaisnavan
dharman vijrimbhayan sarvan api pasandan nicakhana
In the Kali-yuga, Supreme Lord will appear in a brahmana's family. He will teach the message of the Upanisads and the dharma-sastras. He will defeat the atheists and offenders and He will establish the truth of Vaisnava-dharma. (Krsna Upanisad 2.6)
yada pasyah pasyate rukma-varnam
kartaram isam purusam brahma-yonim
One who sees that golden-colored Personality of Godhead, the Supreme Lord, the supreme actor, who is the source of the Supreme Brahman, is liberated. (Mundaka Upanisad 3.1.3 of Atharva Veda)
saptame gaura-varna-visnor ity
anena sva-saktya caikyam etya
prantepratar avatirya saha
svaih sva-manum siksayati
In the seventh manvantara, in the beginning of the Kali-yuga, the Supreme Personality of Godhead accompanied by His own associates, will descend in a golden form to the earth. He will teach the chanting of His own holy names. (Purusa-bodhini Upanisad of Atharva Veda)
mahan prabhur vai purusah
sattvasyaisa pravartakah
sunirmalam imam praptim
isano jyotir avyayah
The Supreme Personality of Godhead is Mahaprabhu [Lord Caitanya], who disseminates transcendental enlightenment. Just to be in touch with Him is to be in contact with the indestructible brahmajyoti. (Svetasvatara Upanisad 3.12 of Yajur Veda)
Smrti:
ittham nr-tiryag-rsi-deva jhasavatarair
lokan vibhavayasi hamsi jagat pratipan
dharmam maha-purusa pasi yuganuvrttam
channah kalau yad abhavas tri-yugo 'tha sa tvam
In this way, my Lord, You appear in various incarnations as a human being, an animal, a great saint, a demigod, a fish or a tortoise, thus maintaining the entire creation in different planetary systems and killing the demoniac principles. According to the age, O my Lord, You protect the principles of religion. In the age of Kali, however, You do not assert Yourself as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and therefore You are known as Triyuga, or the Lord who appears in three yugas. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.9.38, Prahlada Maharaja speaks to Lord Nrsimhadeva)
asan varnas trayo hy asya
grhnato 'nuyugam tanuh
suklo raktas tatha pita
idanim krsnatam gatah
This boy [Krsna] has three other colors - white, red and yellow - as He appears in different ages. Now He has appeared in a transcendental blackish color. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.8.13, Gargamuni speaks to Nanda Maharaja)
krsna-varnam tvisakrsnam
sangopangastra-parsadam
yajnaih sankirtana-prayair
yajanti hi su-medhasah
In the age of Kali, intelligent persons perform congregational chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead who constantly sings the name of Krsna. Although His complexion is not blackish, He is Krsna Himself. He is accompanied by His associates, servants, weapons and confidential companions. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 11.5.32, Karabhajana Muni speaks to King Nimi)
dhyeyam sada paribhava-ghnam abhista-doham
tirthaspadam siva-virinci-nutam saranyam
bhrtyarti-ham pranata-pala bhavabdhi-potam
vande maha-purusa te caranaravindam
My dear Lord, You are the Maha-purusa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and I worship Your lotus feet, which are the only eternal object of meditation. Those feet destroy the embarrassing conditions of material life and freely award the greatest desire of the soul, the attainment of pure love of Godhead. My dear Lord, Your lotus feet are the shelter of all holy places and of all saintly authorities in the line of devotional service and are honored by powerful demigods like Lord Siva and Lord Brahma. My Lord, You are so kind that You willingly protect all those who simply bow down to You with respect, and thus You mercifully relieve all the distress of Your servants. In conclusion, my Lord, Your lotus feet are actually the suitable boat for crossing over the ocean of birth and death, and therefore even Lord Brahma and Lord Siva seek shelter at Your lotus feet. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 11.5.33)
tyaktva su-dustyaja-surepsita-rajya-laksmim
dharmistha arya-vacasa yad agad aranyam
maya-mrgam dayitayepsitam anvadhavad
vande maha-purusa te caranaravindam
O Mahapurusa, I worship Your lotus feet. You gave up the association of the goddess of fortune and all her opulence, which is most difficult to renounce and is hankered after by even the great demigods. Being the most faithful follower of the path of religion, You thus left for the forest in obedience to a brahmana's curse. Out of sheer mercifulness You chased after the fallen conditioned souls, who are always in pursuit of the false enjoyment of illusion, and at the same time engaged in searching out Your own desired object, Lord Syamasundara. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 11.5.34)
prasantatma lamba-kanthas
gaurangas ca suravrtah
The Supreme Personality of Godhead will come in a golden form, full of peace, and a beautiful long neck. He will be surrounded by many saintly devotees. (Agni Purana)
anadasru-kala-roma
harsa-purnam tapo-dhana
sarve mam eva draksyanti
kalau sannyasa-rupinam
O sage whose wealth is austerity, in the Kali-yuga everyone will see My form as a sannyasi, a form filled with tears of bliss and bodily hairs standing erect. (Bhavisya Purana)
kaleh prathama-sandhyayam
gaurango 'ham mahi-tale
bhagirathi-tate bhumni
bhavisyami sanatanah
In the first sandhya of the Kali-yuga I will reveal My eternal golden form by the Ganges' shore on the earth. (Brahma Purana)
nama-siddhanta-sampati
prakasana-parayanah
kvacit sri-krsna-caitanya
nama loke bhavisyati
The Supreme Personality of Godhead will again appear in this world. His name will be Sri Krsna Caitanya and He will spread the chanting of the Lord's holy names. (Devi Purana)
yad gopi-kuca-kumbha-sambhrama-bhara-
rambhena samvardhitah yad va gopa-kumara-
sara-kalaya range subhandi-krtam yad
vrndavana-kanane pravilasac chridama-
damadibhis tat prema-pradatam cakara
bhagavan caitanya-rupah prabhuh
The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Who enjoyed glorious pastimes with Sridama, Dama, and other gopa boys in Vrndavana forest, and Whose eyes glanced at the gopis' breasts, will again come to this world to reveal the nature of pure spiritual love. At that time His name will be Caitanya. (Garuda Purana)
yo reme saha-ballavi ramayate vrndavane
'har-nisam yah kamsam nijaghana kaurava-
rane yah pandavanam sakha so 'yam vainava-
danda-mandita-bhutah sannyasa-vesah sva-
yam nihsandedham upagatah ksiti-tale
caitanya-rupah prabhuh
The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Who enjoyed pastimes with the gopis, Who day and night filled the people of Vrndavana with happiness, Who killed Kamsa, and Who in the war between the Kauravas made friendship with the Pandavas, will come again to the earth. Of this there is no doubt. His arm decorated with a bamboo danda, He will be a sannyasi and his name will be Caitanya. (Garuda Purana)
kalina dahyamananam
paritranaya tanu-bhrtam
janma prathama-sandhyayam
karisyami dvijatisu
To deliver the conditioned souls burning in the trouble of Kali-yuga, in the first sandhya of that age I will take birth among the Brahmanas. (Garuda Purana)
aham purno bhavisyami
yuga-sandhau visesatah
mayapure navadvipe
bhavisyami saci-sutah
In My original spiritual form, perfect and complete, I will become the son of Sacidevi in Navadvipa-Mayapura at the beginning of Kali-yuga. (Garuda Purana)
kaleh prathama-sandhyayam
laksmi-kanto bhavisyati
daru-brahma-samipa-sthah
sannyasi gaura-vigrahah
In the first sandhya of Kali-yuga, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will assume a golden form. First He will be the husband of Laksmi, and then He will be a sannyasi who stays near Lord Jagannatha at Puri. (Garuda Purana)
kalina dahyamanam
uddhararaya tanu-bhrtam
janma prathama sandhyayam
bhavisyati dvijalaye
The Supreme Person will appear in the first part of the age of Kali. He will appear in the home of a brahmana, to save the embodied conditioned souls burning in the troubles of Kali-yuga. (Kurma Purana)
suvarna-varno hemango
varangas candanangadi
sannyasa-krc chamah santo
nistha-santi-parayanah
In His early pastimes He appears as a householder with a golden complexion. His limbs are beautiful, and His body, smeared with the pulp of sandalwood, seems like molten gold. In His later pastimes He accepts the sannyasa order, and He is equipoised and peaceful. He is the highest abode of peace and devotion, for He silences the impersonalist nondevotees. (Mahabharata, Dana-dharma-parva ch. 189, Vaisampayana Muni speaks)
golokam ca parityajya
lokanam trana-karanat
kalau gauranga-rupena
lila-lavanya-vigrahah
In the Kali-yuga, I will leave Goloka and to save the people of the world, I will become the handsome and playful Lord Gauranga. (Markandeya Purana)
mundo gaurah su-dirghangas
tri-srotas-tira-sambhavah
dayaluh kirtana-grahi
bhavisyami kalau-yuge
In the age of Kali, I shall advent where the three rivers meet. I shall have a shaven head. I shall have a golden complexion. I will be very kind and always chant the holy name of Krsna. (Matsya Purana)
bhakti-priyo bhakti-data, damodara ibhas-patih
indra-darpa-haro 'nanto, nityananda-cid-atmakah
The Supreme Personality of Godhead is known by the names Bhakti-priya, Bhakti-data, Damodara, Ibhas-pati, Indra-darpa-hara, Ananta, Nityananda-cid-atmaka. (Narada-pancaratra, Bala-Krsna- sahasra-nama-stotra)
divija bhuvi jayadhvam
jayadhvam bhakta-rupinah
kalau sankirtanarambhe
bhavisyami saci-sutah
O divija (demigods), please come and advent as devotees on this earth in the age of Kali. I will incarnate as the son of Saci to inaugurate the congregational chanting of the name of Krsna. (Narada Purana)
aham eva kalau vipra (or dvijasresthah)
nityam pracchanna-vigrahah
bhagavad-bhakta-rupena
lokam raksami sarvada
O brahmana, in the age of Kali I will appear disguised as a devotee of the Lord and I will deliver all the worlds. O demigods, in the Kali-yuga please take birth as devotees on the earth. I will appear as the son of Saci in the Kali-yuga to start the sankirtana movement. (Narada Purana)
satye daitya-kuladhi-nasa-samaye simhor-
dhva-martyakrtis trtayam dasa-kandharam
paribhavan rameti namakrtih gopalan
paripalayan vraja-pure bharam haran
dvapare gaurangah priya-kirtanah kali-yuge
caitanya-nama prabhuh
The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Who in the Satya-yuga appeared as a half-man half-lion to cure a terrible disease that has ravaged the daityas, and Who in Treta-yuga appeared as a person named Rama, a person who defeated the ten-headed demon Ravana, and Who in the Dvapara-yuga removed the earth's burden and protected the gopa people of Vraja-pura, will appear again in the Kali-yuga. His form will be golden, He will delight in chanting the Lord's holy names, and His name will Caitanya. (Nrsimha Purana)
kaleh prathama-sandhyayam
gaurango 'ham mahi-tale
bhagirathi-tate ramye
bhavisyami saci-sutah
In the first sandhya of Kali-yuga I will appear on the earth in a beautiful place by the Ganges' shore. I will be the son of Sacidevi and My complexion will be golden. (Padma Purana)
yatra yogesvarah saksad
yogi-cintyo janardanah
caitanya-vapur aste vai
sandranandatmakah prabhuh
The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Who is filled with bliss, Who rescues the devotees from a host of calamities, and Who is the master of yoga and the object of the yogis' meditation, will appear in His transcendental form and will be known by the name Caitanya. (Padma Purana)
antah-krsno bahir-gaurah
sangopangastra-parsadah
sacigarbhe samapna yat
maya-manusa-karma-krt
Inside black and outside golden and accompanied by His associates and weapons, I shall appear in the womb of Saci. I will seemingly act as a human being because of the cover of My maya potency. (Skanda Purana)
kali-ghora-tamascchannan
sarvan acara-varjitan
saci garbhe ca sambhuya
tarayisyami narada
O Narada, appearing from the womb of Sacidevi [an incarnation of Krsna's mother Yasoda], I shall deliver the people of Kali-yuga, who will be covered by deep ignorance and thus devoid of good behavior. (Vamana Purana)
aham eva dvija-srestho
lila-pracurya-vigrahah
bhagavad-bhakta-rupena
lokan raksami sarvada
I shall come as the best of the brahmanas. I will exhibit many pastimes in the form of a devotee. I shall deliver the people of the world. (Varaha Purana)
mundo gaurah sudirghangas
trisrotastira-sambhavah
dayaluh kirtanagrahi
bhavisyami kalau yuge
kalau sankirtanarambhe
bhavisyami saci-sutah
In Kali-yuga I shall appear in a golden form with shaved head and a tall body. I shall be merciful to people engaged in sankirtana on the bank of the River Ganges. When the sankirtana movement is inaugurated, I shall descend as the son of Sacidevi. (Vayu Purana)
suddho gaurah-su-dirghango
ganga-tira-samudbhavah
dayaluh-kirtana-grahi
bhavisyami kalau yuge
In the age of Kali-yuga, I shall come in a place on the bank of the Ganges. I will be very pure, have a fair complexion, and be very tall and chant the holy names of Krsna. (Vayu Purana)
paurnamasyam phalgunasya
phalguni-rksa-yogatah
bhavisye gaura-rupena
saci-garbhe purandarat
svarnadi-tiram asthaya
navadvipe janasraye
tatra dvija-kulam prapto
bhavisyami janalaye
bhakti-yoga-pradanaya
lokasyanugrahaya ca
sannyasa-rupam asthaya
krsna-caitanya-nama-dhrk
tena lokasya nistaras
tat kurudhvam mamajnaya
dharitri bhavita cabhir
mayaiva dvija-dehina
I shall advent in the month of Phalguna, when the star Phalguni is conjoined with the full moon. I shall incarnate in a golden complexion in the womb of Saci and Purandara Misra.
I will be born in the city of Navadvipa, on the Ganges' shore, in a brahmana's family. I shall take the renounced order of life [sannyasa] and show kindness to the people in general and engage them in Bhakti. I will be known as Sri Krsna Caitanya.
All of you should follow My order and deliver the people of the world. I shall appear as a brahmana. I shall make this earth fearless. (Vayu Purana)
aham eva kvacid-brahman
sannyasa-asrama-asritah
haribhaktim grahayami
kalau papa-hatan-naran
I, the Supreme Brahman, sometimes appear as a sannyasi. I am preaching the Hari-bhakti which destroys the sins of people in Kali-yuga. (an Upapurana)
Ananta-samhita:
svarnadi-tiram asritya
navadvipe dvijalaye
sampradatum bhakti-yogam
lokasyanugrahaya ca
sa eva bhagavan krsno
radhika-prana-vallabhah
srsty-adau sa jagannatho
gaura asin mahesvari
avatirno bhavisyami
kalau-nija-ganaih saha
saci-garbhe navadvipe
svardhuni-parivarite
aprakasyam idam guhyam
na prakasyam bahir-mukhe
bhaktavataram bhaktakhyam
bhaktam bhakti-pradam svayam
man-maya-mohitah kecin
na jnasyanto bahir-mukhah
jnasyanti mad-bhakti-yuktah
sadhavo-nyasinotmalah
krsnavatara-kale-yah
striyo ye purusah priyah
kalau te 'vatarisyanti
sridama-subaladayah
catuh-sasti-mahantas te
gopa dvadasa balakah
dharma-samsthapanarthaya
viharisyami tair aham
kale nastam bhakti-patham
sthapayisyamy aham punah
gacchantu bhuvi te putrah
jayantam bhakta-rupinah
dharma-samsthapanam kale
kurvantu te mamajnaya
krsnas caitanya-gaurango
gauracandrah saci-sutah
prabhur gauro gaura-harir
namani-bhakti-dani me
To show mercy to the people and give them devotional service, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will appear in a brahmana's home in Navadvipa by the Ganges' shore. The Supreme Person, Sri Krsna Himself, who is the life of Srimati Radharani, and is the Lord of the universe in creation, maintenance, and annihilation, appears as Gaura, O Mahesvari.
In Kali-yuga, I will descend to the earth with My associates. In Navadvipa, which is surrounded by the Ganges, I will take birth in Sacidevi's womb.
They who are bewildered by My illusory potency will not understand the great secret of the appearance in this world of Me in My personal form, in My form as the incarnation of devotion, in My form as the incarnation of a devotee, in My form bearing the name of a devotee, in My form as a devotee, and in My form as the giver of devotional service.
This secret is not to be revealed to them. Only the saintly, pure, renounced devotees, diligently engaged in My devotional service, will be able to understand Me in these five forms.
My dear male and female associates, headed by Sridama and Subala, who came to this world at the time of My advent as Lord Krsna, will come again during the Kali-yuga.
The gopas will become the sixty-four mahantas and the twelve gopalas. To establish the truth of religion, I will enjoy many pastimes with them.
In this way I will again reveal the path of devotional service, which has been destroyed in the course of time. My sons should also descend to the earth, assume the forms of devotees, and, by My order, also work to re-establish the principles of true religion.
At this time My names will be: Krsna Caitanya, Gauranga, Gauracandra, Sacisuta, Mahaprabhu, Gaura and Gaurahari. Chanting these names will bring devotion to Me.
gauri sri-radhika devi
harih krsna prakirtitah
ekatvac ca tayoh saksad
iti gaura-harim viduh
The golden Goddess Radha is known by the name Gauri and the dark Lord Krsna is known by the name Hari. Aware that both of them have combined, the wise call Him as Gaurahari."
navadvipe tu tah sakhyo
bhakta-rupa-dharah priye
ekangam sri-gaura-harim
sevante satatam muda
"O beloved, assuming the forms of devotees the gopis will also take birth in Navadvipa. With great happiness they will again and again serve Lord Gaurahari, who is Radha and Krsna combined in a single form."
sri-mahadeva uvaca
gaurangam sac-cid-anandam, sarva-karana-karanam
vaca gadgadayanantam, tustava dharani-dharah
Lord Anantadeva, the upholder of the whole universe then with a chocked voice full of ecstasy tried to satisfy the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Sri Gauranga Mahaprabhu, the Supreme Cause of all Causes who possesses a transcendental eternal form of truth, knowledge and bliss.
vrndavane navadvipe, bheda-buddhis ca yo narah
tam eva radhika-krsne, sri-gaurange paratmani
mac-chala-pata-nirbhinna-dehah so 'pi naradhamah
pacyate narake ghore, yavad ahuta-samplavam
Lord Shiva said: "With my trident I will cut into pieces anyone who thinks that Vrindavana and Navadvipa are different, or that Radha-Krsna and Gauranga are different, or that Lord Gauranga is not the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Such a person is most degraded among human beings. He or she will burn in a terrible hell until the time when the universe is flooded with water."
vistaran me nigaditah, sruto yah krsna isvarah
visvadau gaura-kantitvat, gaurangam vaisnavah viduh
Please hear attentively, I will describe in detail this most confidential secret. The Supreme Isvara or Controller Lord Krishna who is the origin of everything is known and worshiped by the learned Vaishnava devotees as Lord Gauranga, when He accepts the golden complexion of Srimati Radhika.
paratmane namas tasmai, sarva-karana-hetave
adi-devaya gauraya, sac-cid-ananda-rupine
I offer my prostrated obeisances to Adideva, the Supreme Lord Sri Gauranga Mahaprabhu who is the ultimate and original cause of all causes, the Paratma or Supersoul of all living entities and who possesses a transcendental eternal form of truth, knowledge and bliss.
gopi-sangam na capnoti, sri-gaura-caranad rte
tasmat tvam sarva-bhavena, sri-gauram bhaja sarvada
And to achieve the service and association of the gopis of Vrindavana the only way is to worship the lotus feet of Lord Gauranga and chant His name. Therefore Parvati, you should worship Lord Gauranga and chant His name constantly and with sarva-bhava, full surrender, giving everything to Him.
gauranga-caranambhoja-makaranda-madhuvratah
sadhanena vina radham, krsnam prapsyanti niscitam
The person who is like a transcendental honeybee relishing the supreme ambrosial nectar (makaranda) emanating from the divine lotus feet of Lord Gauranga Mahaprabhu will most certainly without a doubt attain Their Lordships Sri Sri Radha Krishna even without performing any sadhana-bhakti practice of bhakti-yoga.
radhika-vallabhah krsno, bhaktanam priya-kamyaya
srimad-gauranga-rupena, navadvipe virajate
The Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krishna who is most dear to His Supreme consort Srimati Radharani is situated in Navadvipa in His transcendental combined form of Srimad Gauranga to fulfil the innermost desires of His most intimate devotees. (end of Ananta-samhita quotes)
athavaham dhara-dhamni
bhutva mad-bhakta-rupa-dhrk
mayayam ca bhavisyami
kalau sankirtanagame
Sometimes I personally appear on the surface of the world in the garb of a devotee. Specifically, I appear as the son of Saci in Kali-yuga to start the sankirtana movement. (Brahma-yamala tantra)
gaurangam gaura-diptangam
pathet stotram krtanjalih
nanda-gopa-sutam caiva
namasyami gadagrajam
With great devotion and folded hands, one should recite the following prayer before Lord Gauranga, whose limbs are as effulgent as molten gold: 'I offer my respectful obeisances to Lord Gauranga-Krsna, the son of the Nanda Maharaja and the elder brother of Gada. (Brahma-yamala tantra)
kalau prathama-sandhyayam
hari-nama-pradayakah
bhavisyati navadvipe
saci-garbhe janardanah
In the first sandhya of Kali-yuga, Lord Krsna will appear in Navadvipa, in Sacidevi's womb. In that incarnation He will teach the chanting of Lord Hari's holy names.
anyavatara bahavah
sarve sadharana matah
kalau krsnavataras tu
gudhah sannyasa-vesa-dhrk
Lord Krsna descends to the world in many different forms. However in Kali-yuga, His incarnation is hidden. At that time He appears disguised as a sannyasi. (Jaimini-bharata)
kvacit sapi krsnam aha
srnu mad-vacanam priya
bhavata ca sahaikatmyam
icchami bhavitum prabho
mama bhavanvitam rupam
hrdayahlada-karanam
parasparanga-madhya-stham
krida-kautuka-mangalam
paraspara-svabhavadhyam
rupam ekam pradarsaya
srutva tu preyasi-vakyam
parama-priti-sucakam
svecchayasid yatha purvam
utsahena jagad-guruh
premalingana-yogena
hy acintya-sakti-yogatah
radha-bhava-kanti-yuktam
murtim ekam prakasayan
svapne tu darsayam asa
radhikayai svayam prabhuh
Then Sri Radha said to Lord Krsna: 'O beloved, please hear My words. I yearn to become one with you. Please show a form where You and I embrace and Our two bodies become one, a form filled with the love I bear for You, a form filled with auspicious and blissful pastimes, a form that brings bliss to the heart, a form that unites Our two natures.'
Hearing His beloved's words, which were filled with joy and love, Lord Krsna passionately embraced Her. Then by the touch of His inconceivable potency Their two forms joined and became one, a single form endowed with Sri Radha's divine love and glorious splendor. In a dream Lord Krsna showed all this to Sri Radha. (Kapila tantra)
aham purno bhavisyami
yuga-sandhau visesatah
mayapure navadvipe
varam ekam saci-sutah
During the first sandhya of Kali-yuga I will descend, with all My powers and glories, to Mayapura in Navadvipa and become the son of Sacidevi. (Krsna-yamala tantra)
punya-ksetre navadvipe
bhavisyami saci-sutah
I shall appear in the holy land of Navadvipa as the son of Sacidevi. (Krsna-yamala tantra)
iti matva krpa-sindhur
amsena krpaya harih
prasanno bhakta-rupena
kalav avatarisyati
Thinking in this way, Lord Krsna, who is an ocean of mercy, mercifully decided to appear as a devotee in Kali-yuga. (Krsna-yamala tantra)
gauranga nada gambhirah
svanamamrta lalasah
dayaluh kirtana grahi
bhavisyati saci-sutah
Merciful Lord Gauranga, who has a deep voice, will appear as the son of Sacidevi. He is eager to taste the nectar of His own names and thus engages in chanting them. (Krsna-yamala tantra 64)
matva tvanmayam atmanam
pathan dvayaksaram ucyate
gata trapo madonmatto
gaja vad vicarisyati
He (Krsna) will consider Himself as You (Radha). In this mood He will loudly recite two syllables, krs-na, and being shamelessly intoxicated He will wander like an elephant. (Krsna-yamala tantra 65)
bhuvani prapte tu govindas
caitanyakhyo bhavisyati
ansena bhuvi yasyanti
tatra tat purvaparsada
When Lord Govinda appears on earth, He will be known as Caitanya. At that time His associates also appear on earth in their expansions. (Krsna-yamala tantra 66)
kalau purandarat sacyam
gaura-rupo vibhu smrtah
In Kali-yuga I will appear in a golden form as the son of Purandara and Sacidevi. (Urdhvamnaya tantra)
navadvipa-samam sthanam
sri-gauranga-samah prabhuh
krsna-prema-sama praptir
nasti durge kadacana
O Durga, no place in the creation is equal to Navadvipa, no master is as merciful as Lord Sri Gauranga, and no attainment in the whole world is equal to pure love for Krsna. (Urdhvamnaya tantra)
krsna-caitanya-namna ye
kirttayanti sakrnnarah
nanaparadha-muktas te
punanti sakalam jagat
A person who even once chants the name of Krsna Caitanya becomes free from all offenses and purifies the whole universe. (Visnu-yamala tantra)
kaleh prathama-sandhyayam
gaurango 'sau mahi-tale
bhagirathi-tate ramye
bhavisyati sanatanah
In the first sandhya of Kali-yuga, on the earth, by the beautiful shore of the Ganges, the Lord will appear in His eternal golden form. (Yoga-vasistha)
Other direct references are found in the Visvasara tantra, Kularnava tantra, Brahma-rahasya, and Visnu-yamala. Besides these there are complete chapters about Sri Caitanya's incarnation in the Vayu Purana and Bhavisya Purana, which are too long to quote here. Also there is a text by the name Caitanya Upanisad within the Atharva Veda, which explains the Lord's incarnation in Kali-yuga. I have not cited it here, as it was rediscovered in recent times, so some people will reject its authenticity, or at least its value as evidence.
Sri Caitanya's incarnation was a hidden incarnation, thus He buried references to His appearance deep within the ocean of Vedic texts. His desire was that His disguise would not be betrayed, so He made sure these references would remain hidden until after His incarnation was complete. These texts were always present, but by the inconceivable yoga-maya of the Lord, He covered His true identity even from the Vedic scholars and panditas. Only the pure devotees understood His actual identity.
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Wed, June 21, 2006 - 9:34 AMAlso, there is a version in the Mahabharata 3.188 which is older than the Puranas
You can read it here in book one section 188 www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03188.htm, the relevent parts continue for two more pages after that one.
Aum! Shanti!
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Wed, June 21, 2006 - 8:43 PMNityananda, do you know the western equivalent of these celestial happenings?
"SB 12.2.24: When the moon, the sun and Bṛhaspatī are together in the constellation Karkaṭa, and all three enter simultaneously into the lunar mansion Puṣyā — at that exact moment the age of Satya, or Kṛta, will begin." -
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Thu, June 22, 2006 - 6:03 AMKali yuga is a total of 432000 years we have passed 5000 of it since the departure of Lord Krishna, this is confirmed in the Puranas -
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Thu, June 22, 2006 - 10:23 PMWhat I don't understand is this: I'm no archeologist, but isn't 432,000 years longer than humans have been around on this planet? -
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Fri, June 23, 2006 - 6:50 AM432000 years more
Kali started 5000 years ago and will go another 432000 years
good book.
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Fri, June 23, 2006 - 5:17 PMIt's been 3,893,000 years since the begining of the first Yuga according to the traditional calculations. So Cynthias concerns still remain since science puts homo sapiens age at between 200,000 and 150,00 years. -
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Fri, June 23, 2006 - 5:38 PMYou correct there Austin
Kali last a total of 432,000 years. Each yuga is successively shorter than the previous, Kali belong the shortest, only lasting 432,000 years Total of the 4 yugas are 4.32 million years and that is called a divya yuga
(Satya Yuga is 1.728 million years
Treta Yuga is 1.296 million years
Dvarpara Yuga is 864,000 years
Kali Yuga is 432,000 years)
= Divya Yuga is 4.32 million years
71 Divya Yugas (306.72 million years)=1 Manvantara(period of Manu)
14 Manvantaras + 15 Sandhyas (4.32 Billion years(night is same lenght)= 1 Kalpa (Day of Brahma)
36,000 Kalpas (Days of Brahma) and an equal number of nights = 311.04 Trillion years (Lifespan of Brahma and this universe)
Vedic Cyclical Time = endless
Yes the Vedic concept of Yugas and human creation does not correspond to modern archeologist. That is why I referenced Michael Cremo's site Forbidden Archaeology, there is growing group of archeologist who have presented evidence that humans have existed much longer than we are taught to beileve. If fact NBC made a nice show in regards to that called NBC's Mysterious Origins of Man some info here www.mcremo.com/mysterious.htm -
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Fri, June 23, 2006 - 9:01 PMThe Ramayana takes place in the Treta Yuga, which was a million years ago, then? Perhaps it is the method of time-keeping and not the scientists that are off. -
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Sat, June 24, 2006 - 4:36 PMhere is some info regarding timings and Ramayana, www.rense.com/general30/nasa.htm -
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Sat, June 24, 2006 - 7:46 PMThat's so *Fantastic!*
Like Krishna's city, supposed to rise at the end of Kaliyuga--- does building an underwater museum out to it so everybody can see it count as Rising? ?
It's just that things, in the U.S. anyway, are so corrupt that good people are losing hope and faith and so much of the definitions for the ugliness of Kali Yuga sound like *now* that it seems impossible to imagine, for me anyway, that it's going to get worse for 432,000 more years . . .
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Sun, June 25, 2006 - 6:24 AMread here it gets much worse, cannibalism and such
srimadbhagavatam.com/12/2/en
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Sun, June 25, 2006 - 1:27 PMI think we're at about 12.2.8, what do you think?
And I cannot wait til SB 12.2.21: "After all the impostor kings have been killed, the residents of the cities and towns will feel the breezes carrying the most sacred fragrance of the sandalwood paste and other decorations of Lord Vāsudeva, and their minds will thereby become transcendentally pure.
SB 12.2.22: When Lord Vāsudeva, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, appears in their hearts in His transcendental form of goodness, the remaining citizens will abundantly repopulate the earth."
Bolo Ram!
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Sun, June 25, 2006 - 2:04 PMI am thinking just about but still not yet. This would be at a worldwide scale. I imagine something like Mad Max and the Thunderdome. This first 10,000 of Kali however is understood to be a mini Golden age due to the decent of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, it is also fortold that the holy names of the Lord will be chanted in every town and village and that would hold the influence of Kali yuga for 10000 years. After that the chanting will be almost lost and there will be practically no spiritual activity by anyone.
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